1982 maytag washer leak, can't find.

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    I,m a little baffled. top loader large capacity standard Maytag washer 1982. washer has a leak. opened up front and top. could not see any signs of a leak. checked supply hoses, fill valve, air break connection of fill lines and the fill connection to the tub. checked the pump and drain hose. looked for water directly under the transmission and under the outer tub. checked the water level hose. looked under the washers floor at the pump, the pulleys, and the bottom of the transmission. no water indications although there is a little oil on the transmission bottom.
    ran a test cycle of water only with front off. everything worked as it should, no leaks.
    yet when it spins with a large load, we get water on the concrete out from under the washer. has happened for 2 weeks now and seem to be getting worse. more water on heavier loads. the tub seems to move around more than it used to with load just slightly out of balance, but all the springs are in place.
    someone with more knowledge has probably ran into this before, but I don't know were to look next. any help would be appreciated.

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    Hi,

    Maytag washer 1982
    Model#?
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    ran a test cycle of water only with front off. everything worked as it should, no leaks.
    yet when it spins with a large load, we get water on the concrete out from under the washer.
    Tried with cold fill, warm fill, hot fill?
    Tried with clothing and soap or just water with nothing else inside?
    It is often best to try and simulate a normal load.

    yet when it spins with a large load, we get water on the concrete out from under the washer.
    Any chance it is burping out of the drain stand pipe and onto the floor?

    jeff.
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    Thanks for your suggestion, I think it has lead to something!
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1 View Post



    Model#?
    Maytag model LA511


    Tried with cold fill, warm fill, hot fill?
    warm fill
    Tried with clothing and soap or just water with nothing else inside?
    with clothes like a normal wash as colse as I could simulate it
    It is often best to try and simulate a normal load.



    Any chance it is burping out of the drain stand pipe and onto the floor?
    seems to be going down drain without any problems. only restriction in drain is a "p" trap that is clean.


    jeff.
    Lifted up the washer on blocks 5 inches to see underneath.
    With front panel removed and a wooden brace built across front top for stability, I tried to simulate the same situation as a normal wash, being able to see behind ,inside form the top and front, and underneath. We ran a load of heavy clothing on warm- cold trying to use both the hot and cold valves. I had an extra large plastic tub to catch the drain.
    results = no water leaks, no water on the ground. frustration!
    Turned my attention to the drain again. I realized that with the washer up against the wall, the hose made a much sharper u-turn at the bottom before it rose to the top of the standing drain pipe that it entered. When we bent it sharply I could see a crack in the hose, so we ran the tests again with the drain hose bent sharply. still no water came out the crack. more frustration!
    Connected a water hose to the drain. P-trap works great, no backups in standing drain pipe!
    I can see that the drain hose almost collapses with the sharp bend as the washer would be pushed back to it's normal posision agains the wall, that is when I looked inside to see a very small amount, (only a few drops), of water that had come out of the anti siphon mechanism as the drain hose leaves the washing machine.
    I'm thinking that the discharge pump is building up pressure with the kinked hose and forcing a little water out of the anti-siphon mechanism. It must not be completely shutting off as it should.
    Even with this, it is much much less than the water leak normally.
    I'll be taking it all apart today to repair or replace the drain and hose.
    If you have any other ideas, please. I am listening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1 View Post
    Hi,



    Model#?
    Where is my Model Number? | Appliance Aid Some model# helps.



    Tried with cold fill, warm fill, hot fill?
    Tried with clothing and soap or just water with nothing else inside?
    It is often best to try and simulate a normal load.



    Any chance it is burping out of the drain stand pipe and onto the floor?

    jeff.
    Model # LA511

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    Good catch on the hose and drain issue....keep us posted.

    I also would find some odd leaks during the spray rinse ( when the washer was spinning and spraying in the water ) and I would change between cold, warm and hot to see if the pressure difference would cause a leak at the airator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1 View Post
    Good catch on the hose and drain issue....keep us posted.

    I also would find some odd leaks during the spray rinse ( when the washer was spinning and spraying in the water ) and I would change between cold, warm and hot to see if the pressure difference would cause a leak at the airator.

    jeff.
    We got it all back together tonight. That original rubber drain hose is incredible. The walls are almost 1/4 inch thick! It's so stout! The rest of the hose looks as good as the day we got it. I cut out the bad spot at the bottom that was not only kinked but also cracked, and made a PVC u-turn pipe to connect the two pieces back together and to take the pressure off of it from having to be pressed against the wall. Then Used a clamp maker to make a clamp to secure it together. No more twists or bends or pressures of any sorts. The water flows freely now. No water baking up to the anti siphon on the drain.

    And most importantly, no water on the floor.
    Thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction. I knew someone would have run into something like this in there experiences! I love Maytag machines, they are built like a tank.

    so my take on the problem was this;
    The drain hose was pressed against the back of the machine and the wall causing it to kinked. But It was such a stout hose, that all these years the knink didn't stop the drain water from exiting. Then with normal agitation movement of the washer over the years, the kink finally gave way to a crack at the bottom in that servier u-turn it created. The hose now weakend from the crack let the kink finally stop most of the water to the drain, even then, the crack hardly leaked becuase the hose walls were so thick.(crack about 1-1/2 inches long and 1/4 inch wide when hose was kinked) ( almost invisible with hose relaxed). by making a u-turn with the pvc instead of the hose, it relieved the pressure and opened the water path without a kink again.
    My water leak was from 2 Spot, the backed up water pressure on the anti-siohon and the crack in the drain hose.
    Thanks again for your knowledge.
    Rex

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    Thankx for the update

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